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April 12, 2011

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Rey

I didn't say man made global warming. The jury is out on what is causing it. To deny some human influence is silly. I'm not an enviro by any stretch, but that's a good topic to test someone's intellectual integrity and humility. Read the Skeptical Environmentalist sometime. You'd like it.

I will never give up my remote unless my kids agree to flip incessantly. Thanks for the kind wishes.

Dennis

Rey,

Man caused global warming is a hoax. It's a proven fact that our global climate change follows patterns of solar flares, as we are experiencing a peak in activity on the sun.

I have the Illuminati, you have man-caused global warming.

Man caused global warming? Really? It's comforting to blame our discontent on mysterious/fictitious propaganda.

You don't suppose there was any "tongue-in-cheek" humor with the smarter-than-me thing? My humor escapes you too. Lighten up Rey! Sometimes I just assume that others around me can comprehend my superior wit. I really can't help myself.

Well if you've one in the oven, then congratulations! We'll talk in 16-18 years (I'm sure sooner), about how kids can change your perspective on life. They are, overall, a blessing; however, I can never find the remote.

Rey

. . . rather be prepared. Whether the Illuminati is at work or not (which makes me wonder if you believe in global warming--i.e., something that is observable), how do you prepare?

No kids--perhaps one on the way. And my kids will be smarter than I, not smarter than me.

Dennis

Rey,

You never did tell me if you have kids.

My kids are way smarter than me! I credit their mum; however she's even more like me than me (ideologically speaking).

It's great talking with you Rey. We may not agree on things, but you are alright.

Now tell me, did you look at that website on the value of the USD? What's your take on it since 1913? Why, since 1913, has the value plummeted. Do you know that it will drop exponentially faster over the next four years? Our country has never been in a worse globally-economic predicament.

Ever ask yourself, what if? I have a friend/business associate that I've known for over 25 years that has been telling me about the Illuminati. At first, I thought he was nuts. In fact I thought he was nuts until about 2 or 3 years ago. Back then I would have agreed with you 100%. It's easy to dismiss the notion that something like the Illuminati could even exist, especially if you watch the news. Rey, history doesn't lie. The USD that you and I slave for will be worthless in a short period of time. Look at the 100 year trend of the USD. Look at your homes eroding value. Look at our country's debt. What percent of our Federal Revenue is spent on interest? The S&P credit rating of America?

Do you think that OPEC will continue to take the USD?

Given the trend, and our present set of circumstances, what do you suppose is going to happen to the value of the USD?

....and you think that it is all happen-stance?

I would rather be prepared.

Rey

Dennis: I hope your kids are smart enough not to compare pedophiles to gays. I hope they dont blame fictional forces for their financial struggles. I hope they don't pick and choose the sins to persecute.

Dennis

Rey,

Look at this website, in particular, look at the value of the USD. Note that in 1913 the Federal Reserve was created. What has happened to our USD since the inception of the Federal Reserve. Note that is was Woodrow Wilson's first act. Did you know that the Federal Reserve is actually not part of our government? It is a coalition of private banks. The Illuminati...., or maybe.... it's just coincidence.

http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Documents/dollar/

Dennis

Rey,

I never said that the free market will protect us all without government. I said that we don't need the EPA. I said that we must minimize government, not eliminate it.

You want externalities? What about the externalities brought forth by the EPA? You know there was a time in this country that we did not have the EPA. Those were better times.

I would not legislate anything about greed, gluttony, or growing two crops in the same field (I'm sorry clothing from many fibers, or whatever), because that is socialism and I am trying to reduce government.

You know, as well as I do, that I will never convince you of the illuminati. So I won't waste my time with this. You go on and believe that our two party system has your best interests in mind. Just keep an eye on the USD.

Everyone has the right to get married. What homosexuals are seeking is privilege above and beyond what other citizens have. Have you ever heard of NAMBLA? Why don't we concede to their wishes while we are at it. Homosexuality is an abomination. Marriage is a sanctity of God. I would fare better in getting you to believe in the illuminati, than you in getting me to change my religion.

Rey

How about the assertion that the free market will protect us all, sans government, from environmental problems? How about some understanding of externalities? How about how you would legislate against gluttony, greed, and wearing clothing of mixed fibers? How about some evidence of the Illuminati? You haven't addressed any of these.

I don't give a darn about anyone's sexuality. I care about freedom and civil rights. So, when people express outrage over homosexuals having civil unions, I get a little upset at the idea that they should limit the freedom of others by selectively applying a moral code that prohibits me from growing two crops on one field.

Dennis

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Dennis

Have you painted that portrait of Brett Reese on your house yet?

Dennis

Now which points did I not address?

Dennis

There you have it Rey. I defer to a higher power.

Now, you are so fond of "public policy", why don't you give me some ideas on how our once great country will get out of debt, rather than worry so much about homosexual behavior patterns. This is my real contention when it comes to government. Why are we even concerned about our governments official stand on homosexuality? Isn't that a bit selfish, given our present set of circumstances? Why don't we ask some homosexuals? Which is more important: Your "rights" to get married, or your obligation to resolve our governments fiscal deficit?

Where I am concerned, I will leave the homosexual matter to God.

Rey

Dennis: don't complain about my insults. You don't know me, so I'm of no consequence. If it matters, however, engage in a little debate. Address my points. Show some ability to apply critical thought. You were on the right track on the civil union discussion, but you fell off the rails pretty quickly when you reverted to the "the Holy Bible is my public policy guide" position.

Dennis

Rey,

At what point did I take offense to your challenge of my assertion? It's your personal insults to which I take offense.

Rey

Dennis: It's best not to assert that "It's simple, the free market can regulate the environment and protect us from harm"--then take offense when your assertion is challenged. Pick up a copy of the Charles Murray book. I think you'll like it. His desired scope of government is not realistic, but you'll get a better idea of the limitations of a market. Yes, we need less government. This does not mean that we need no government, nor does it mean that we need to reduce each function of government. Illuminati? Really? It's comforting to blame our discontent on a mysterious/fictitious group.

Dennis

Rey,

Always with the intelligence insults. Have you ever had a civil discussion?

Actually I don't watch Glenn Beck, as I am too busy working. I am, in fact, well read. Most of my reading has been The Holy Bible,and history. Shelby Foote is my author of choice, as his accounts seem to be most comprehensive. Other than that I follow my trade and personal interests. One of which is our country and the great trouble we are in presently. Most of the trouble we are in stems from the departure from our Constitution since Woodrow Wilson was president. I have also spent much of my spare time over the last 5 or 6 years following the markets and the economy. I believe that the general population of the USA has been distracted by the circus of our two party system, while Illuminati uses both democrats and republicans to manipulate differing ideologies for the fulfillment of a New World Order. You do not; therefore, you are lead.

I will admit to lacking polish and arrogance, but not intelligence. I understand that not everybody agrees with me, but I do not find that a reason to insult their intelligence.

I would consider myself more of a Constitutionalist (Tenth Amendment, in particular), rather than a Libertarian.

Rey

Actually, Dennis, we are not. I am, at heart, a Libertarian. You are too, but you see everything in black and white terms. That's not a sign of intelligence. I'm guessing you're not a big reader, but you should try What it Means to be a Libertarian by Charles Murray. Even the federal government has its role. Dos you ever study Economics? Exeternalities? Tragedy of the commons? Give those things a try during Glenn Beck commercials.

Dennis

Rey,

I guess we are diametrically opposed. I believe that we need less government - across the board. Anything and everything the governments gets involved in becomes a bureaucratic disaster. Fundamentally, the perceived role of our government is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals believe that the governments role is to take care of the citizens, regardless of whether all citizens agree or not (welfare, diet, income redistribution, health-care, retirement, education and information control).

Conservatives believe the role of the government is national security and national infrastructure to facilitate commerce.

The EPA? We are better off without it. Along with the Federal Reserve and the Department of Education.

Rey

You're "solution" assumes that the market will only support those people and companies who don't pollute. This is demonstrably false. Further, it assumes that all who pollute are subject to the free market. This too is false. Most remarkably, it completely ignores the need for government in situations such as the one relative to the Japanese disaster. In that instance, we could have unsafe levels of radiation everywhere, and that radiation was not produced by anyone subject to our marketplace or jurisdiction. The EPA's role is to identify the problem and take steps to fix it.

The free market is terrific. Ignoring its limitations is foolish.

Dennis

Rey,

That's easy. Marketing.

How many people in our country are concerned about our environment?

Corporation X advertises that no animals were used in testing its product. Their sales go up. Corporation Y advertises 100% no-waste-total-recycling-zero-landfill, in the manufacture of their automobiles. Their sales go up. Corporations A through W see the results Corporations X&Y are getting from their "green campaigns" and join the fray. Corporation Z (bet you thought I'd forget them) says to hell with it, we'll pollute as we wish. Their main competitor, Corporation A1, advertises that Corporation X pollutes in an effort to gain market share. Corporation A1's ploy is successful and Corporation Z's sales plummet, as they surrender market share to Corporation A1.

Better known a the free market. Simple.

Rey

If anyone can describe a coherent strategy for replacing the EPA with a free market solution, I'll paint a portrait of Brett Reese on my house.

Dennis

Nukeplague,

You are exactly right. I used to never trust people that said "never trust the government", but you know what? That's exactly what our Constitution tells us. Never trust the government. Especially when they are buying votes with entitlements.

Disaster on the horizon.

nukeplague

Craig,

IF there ever were a time for nanny’s, this would be it. I would trade in the past 50 years of the EPA if they would honestly asses the Fukushema situation.

Maybe they should simply disappear so the market may create a solution to this potential problem?

Currently we are subdued and nobody is responding. Government has short circuited a civil solution.

Craig

EPA? Federal government? Telling us what to eat? Nannyism?

Dennis

Where can I buy a geiger counter? Any iodine left?

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