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SweetPea

Interesting arguments Bobby J, though I can't say I agree, but one complaint. Jesus showed several different emotions in the New Testament, not just anger. The best example that comes to mind is that he showed sorrow when he wept at Lazarus' tomb.

Ryan

Kinda looks to me like either side can justify his position with the Bible. This makes sense, particularly since the first two chapters of the first book contain contradictory accounts of creation.

Dennis

I, personally, do not know of any human that ever walked the face of this earth, that was not first conceived in their mother's womb. That includes Jesus the Christ!

You show me a person that was not, then I might change my position. And don't try the "test-tube" baby thing. The egg came from mum's womb.

Dennis

Ryan,

Foolish I will be.

Bobby J,

Jesus turned the money changers table because they were disrespecting His house of prayer. It really had little to do with money. Do you think He would have turned the tables of prostitutes if they were there? Or abortionists?

Perhaps it was a message to future false prophets, seeking profit (think TV ministries).

"Truly children are a gift from the Lord; the fruit of the womb is a reward" (Psalm 127:3).

"If someone…sees a brother in need and refuses him compassion, how can the love of God remain in Him?" (1 John 3:17).

"God created man in His image; in the divine image He created him; male and female He created them" (Gen. 1:27).

"You knit me in my mother's womb . . . nor was my frame unknown to you when I was made in secret" (Ps. 139: 13,15)

"You have been my guide since I was first formed . . . from my mother's womb you are my God" (Ps.22:11-12).

"Do unto others as you would have them do to you" (Mt. 7:12).

There is a clear, and distinct difference between war and murder.

http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html

Bobby J, I find your position on the issues odd, your interpretation of the Holy Bible unique, and I am wondering if you are a RINO.

I will not waver because others think my effort in vain. That's one of many reasons our country is so messed up.

Dennis

That, Bobby J, is a good question.

Ryan

Believe whatever you wish as to when life begins. I can respect both sides if thoughtfully supported. But if you believe that the election of a politician will do anything to save the life of an unborn child, you're being foolish.

Mimi

Bobby, I stand by what I said...Abortion is murder... But don't try to change my mind. You will have to answer to someone much higher in the end. My soul is clear. I spread the word. You have been told. Do with it what you want. And by the way, I have read the Bible many times and now I am in the process of re reading it......Great book, best seller, you should read it.............

Bobby J.

Mimi,

Are you suggesting we prohibit all murder such as war or just certain murder such as abortion? Also how did you prioritize abortion over fiscal sanity? The New Testament has only ONE example of Jesus showing any emotion. This emotion was anger. Jesus flipped the money changers and called them a den of thieves.

Where in the NT did Jesus whip the abortion doctor? Where did Jesus place abortion prohibition as the highest Christian priority? When did abortion become the litmus test? Jesus had real anger when dealing with money changers who were stealing from the people every time the people attempted to purchase any goods to cloth and feed their Christian families. Starve the people, kill an unborn baby.

Have you read your Bible?

Mat 21- 12,13
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

mimi

Abortion is murder, plain and simple..........It says in the Bible, if you would bother to read it, that GOD KNEW YOU BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. What about that don't you get?

Bobby J.

The LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. (NIV, Genesis 2:7)

Breath required for life?

"And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. "But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, (NAS, Exodus 21:22-24)

Killed a baby no harm, hurt momma big trouble?

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. Matthew 21:12-13 King James Version (KJV)

Ahh, the one time Jesus pulled out his whip and showed true anger.
Money changers and the den of theives, i.e. fractional reserve banking is the money changer and thieves is the hidden inflation tax.

Bobby J.

Dennis,

We are at war with liberals, why do we allow them to select our canidates?

Dennis

I am against abortion; however, I am not singular in focus. I have advocated that abortion issues be at the state level. If you understand the Constitution, then you can see that federal government has no business, pro or con, in abortion. I vote my conscience. I vote pro-life. That's my stand. I do not give in to compromise, unless I have no other options.

That being said, I will vote for any republican if I feel it will stop obama. He, and his destruction of our country, must be stopped. When eating an elephant...., eat it one bite at a time.

We, conservatives, are at war with liberals. Liberals have destroyed our country. They are the reason that we have not won a war since WWII. Their tax-and-spend policies have bankrupt our country. They are the reason we are turning into a Godless society that kills unborn infants.

It's funny. All the liberals get up in arms when God-fearing people vote their conscience, or stand up for their beliefs. 50 years ago this was not not an issue. Why do I get upset? When you've had a better life, country, and common morals; and a bunch of immoral athiests come along and take that away, then that is loss. This country needs an enema of the greatest proportions, or we will be facing our second civil war.

Bobby J.

And one more thing, you rail activist judges then you turn around and advocate activist judges. What the hell are you talking about.

If you think your good government can prevent abortion then elect enough abortion prohibitionists to create and pass an anti-abortion law. Oh yea, how are you going to pay for this prohibition? You will need many more prisons and bureaucrats. You talk about fiscal sanity but every time you turn around you are advocating MORE government.

Spend your time spreading the gospel because Jesus is the only one who can prevent abortion. Not your fat, bloated, ineffective, corrupt, power hungry, deceptive, inflationary enslavement government.

Bobby J.

Ryan,

There will always be abortions. Judges and elected officials cannot stop what people want, look at the drug war. I think we are saying the same thing?

Dear Profilers,

Fix the economy and tax code to create prosperity. Prosperity will reduce the demand for abortions. Your current protocol has not stopped one single abortion and you never will. The only thing you have done is created a political circus. We are in 4 wars, 14 T debt and the dollar is worth 1/1500th of 1 ounce of gold. Not only are you killing babies, you have killed the dollar and sound money.

Jesus was angered just one time in the Bible. He pulled out his whip and flipped the money changers table.

Why do pro-lifers care more about saving unborn babies then they care about flipping the money changers table?

I hate the thought of abortion and I do not consider it an option however there are good ways to reduce abortion and then there are nonsensical ways that create a path of destruction.

Your current methods are pathetic, non- effective and destructive. You turn a blind eye to fractional reserve banking and fiat currency, you fail to stop the millions of abortions every year, you murder countless innocent citizen with your war machine, you fail to build a good government .

Think of all the babies that are never born because you elect war mongers.

You are losing every battle on every front, unless of course you are socialist in disguise?


Think about it.

Rant out.

Ryan

There have been countless "pro-life" elected officials since the 1973 decision of Roe v. Wade. Not one has saved the life of a single unborn child through their respective offices. It's folly to devote your attention and resources to politicians who promise to protect the life of the unborn. You'll do better by the unborn children if you devote your attention and resources to organizations who lovingly encourage women not to terminate pregnancies.

Politicians have direct control over government spending, taxes, regulation, etc. I choose to focus on those issues.

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