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September 20, 2011


Rick Jones

What I like best about Ron Paul are his:

Staunch defense of the Constitution.

Desire for a smaller federal government.

Lack of guile.

I could find other admirable qualities if I took a little more time, but these are a nice start.

Rick Jones

Bobby J,

Obviously, I struck a nerve. I don't want to irritate it further, that is not my style.

However, I will say that I find the matter of Iran, and other so-called rogue nations, getting the bomb to be a Presidential level concern and I am not satisfied with his stance on the matter. On that issue we may have to just disagree.

And, at risk of violating my intent to not irritate, I found your last two sentences;

"Seems like a double standard only the military industrial complex could dream up.

How do we know America is not the bomb dropping psychopath? We do have a proven track record."

to lack the thoughtfulness of the first part of your post. On review I trust that you will agree.


It is not my place to condemn. Why are you always so bitter?


I mock only those who claim an absolute understanding of God, and thus, condemn all others who experience God otherwise. Every penny sent to Cain is a penny to Obama. If you don't understand thar, you are terribly misled.


Everybody check this out.

It is a questionnaire on the issues. Take the quiz. It will tell you, based on your answers, with who you are most politically aligned. It's kind of fun, and informative.


Why must you mock the Lord?

Is it because you don't understand the Word? Then perhaps you should try going to church and get some assistance from a man of the cloth (Pastor) for a greater understanding.

In the end, you too will be pleading for mercy from our Savior. Just like us. Can you not see what is unfolding before your eyes? Do you not comprehend the acceleration of evil in our society? The momentum is reaching critical mass (no pun intended). The evil does not ebb and flow. It increases, incessantly. It's crescendo is nigh.

I believe that Mitt Romney will get the nomination; however, I am most politically aligned with Herman Cain.


I've accomplished exactly what I intended to do regarding your points of view, both regarding GOP Presidential candidates and matters of religion. As to the first, I can continually demonstrate that nobody is good enough for you who are so pure of principal and ideology. If you remove yourself from the reality of political compromise, you contribute to policies with which you most vehemently oppose.

As to the second, I show how adherence to a strict and fundamentalist reading of scripture is untenable. There are factual contradictions in the first two chapters of Genesis, as well as in the gospels. You can either apply common sense and the movement of the Holy Spirit to your understanding of the Bible, or you can ignore both and insist that the Bible is historically accurate and that there is no room for a difference of interpretation.

Make mine Romney. No, not quite conservative enough for my tastes, but he's electable and most likely to replace Pres. Obama in 2012. Y'all can hold out until Jesus returns to run for office.

Tyrant Fighter

Surely Shirley you jest, and you have done what you have intended and hijacked the entire thread....mission accomplished. Are you sure you are not a government operative who is paid to do just that? One thing is for certain you have not much grasp of the written word.."The WAY" as Paul would have called it and you may want to concentrate on the book of Acts and what was taught about the old Hebrew Law. Go Ron Paul and yes he too is a Christian man albeit a Catholic, and none the less he would forgive you and not be judgemental.


Surely Shirley, I'm sure your talking in shircles.


They can all be sins, and some can be worse than others. The Bible does not refute this. No one can claim that one must be sinless to be a Christian. Leviticus shows different punishments for different offenses; however, Leviticus is insane.


Shirley, you poor misguided soul,

Sin is a matter of the heart. It matters not what the sin is, so much as that it is there, in the heart. Suppose you listed the Ten Commandments like this:

#1 - Blue
#2 - Red
#3 - Green
#4 - Yellow
#5 - Brown
#6 - Orange
#7 - Purple
#8 - Tan
#9 - Pink
#10 - Gray

Are they not all sins?

Everyday (for years, literally)I tell my kids, "be good, and don't be bad". They laugh. You know what. It works. They hear it every day. I don't say; "don't fight", or "don't cuss", or "don't spit on each other". I say, "be good, and don't be bad". My kids were also raised going to church and schooled in Christian schools. They know the Ten Commandments, but they also know "be good, and don't be bad".

God sees and understands your heart. Do you think that when you are tempted to flip somebody off from your car (I know you don't) because they cut you off, that God doesn't see that as murder. We don't call it murder, but what is it that is in your heart at that time?

Is lust not adultery (covet)?

Is envy not theft?

A most common misconception of Christianity (and granted there are many that promote this) is that to be a Christian you cannot sin. After all, how could Christians judge others when they themselves are guilty? Answer: They can't, because that too is a sin.

A Christian is a sinner that understands he/she cannot save themselves from sin, but must have faith that Jesus Christ has forgiven his/her sin and are therefore grateful. That is all.

The earth is simply the battleground of good versus evil. We are taught, through the Holy Bible, the difference. We are also provided a "lifeline", when we realize that, in this battle, we are helpless. So take your pick, which is the greatest sin? Which is the least? Is the least not a sin?

One unforgivable sin: Denying the Holy Spirit.

"Now go and sin no more." John 8:1-11


1: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' 

2: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' 

3: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.' 

4: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.' 

5: 'Honor your father and your mother.' 

6: 'You shall not murder.' 

7: 'You shall not commit adultery.' 

8: 'You shall not steal.' 

9: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.' 

10: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

Who believes God intended the numbers to be a rating system of importance?
Man created that observe his system of punishments.
God said remember and keep the ten commandments.
-No priorities there!


There is neither a rating system nor any indication that coveting thy neighbor's stuff is morally equal to murder. I'll defer to my God-given common sense. You can choose to do otherwise. Resume your noble efforts at fighting all of those Tyrants.

Tyrant Fighter

Utopia..... exactly the way it was designed and intended Bobby J and we can't have that as it would be too hard on the people still on the government teet, the wealthy and indigent. Shirley do your own homework quit trying to hijack this thread, and report back when you find a rating system on sin in the Bible.


Just found it--it's right next to the scripture that says God helps those who helps themselves. Right, Tyrant Fighter?



Paul wants government so long as it comes from a State Republic, not a Federal tyranny.


Maybe tomorrow.


I just did. Did you miss the question mark?


Ask and ye shall find.


You got that from God, Tyrant Fighter? What else did it say?

Tyrant Fighter

Paul is not the establishments choice therefore a media blackout by the state run media....... As far as sins are concerned there is no hiarchy on any sin in God's eyes a lie is as bad as murder. Follow the Constitution it is that simple, and that is what Dr. Paul has done and has the voting record to prove it. He does not want government in anyones lives.


The positions I listed are among the best Paul has taken. Nevertheless, he is great entertainment. The Illuminat's choice has not yet emerged. Be vigilant.


Rick Jones,

Paul sees danger however he sees danger from black listing them as well. Either way, can we really stop Iran from getting a bomb? In Rons world, Congress must declare an official act of war so it is really not up to him anyways. Even with declaration, we cant stop them. Why act as though Ron is King and it is all up to him?

Certainly some of his more extreme view points on foreign policy are his greatest flaws but why disqualify Ron over a few flaws and grant the other candidates a free pass on their domestic and economic flaws? Seems like a double standard only the military industrial complex could dream up.

How do we know America is not the bomb dropping psychopath? We do have a proven track record.


Ron Paul is saying 'IF' the government had done things differently in the past we wouldn't be doing many of things we are today.

Mostly he's saying if we had acted as our Constitution directs the Federal government would be protecting Americans not acting like the Godfather of the world and spending your tax dollars everywhere but here.
With that alone the Fed would be a lot smaller.

And boiled down to a nut-shell, making the government smaller with less impact in our lives is all anyone should concerned about.
That is what Paul is all about plain and simple.


Well, shiver me timbers! I'm going to have to agree with Shirley and Rick.

While Paul is correct on many of his interpretations of the Constitution, his foreign policy, quite frankly, scares me to death.

I'm sure that he is not the selection of the illuminati.

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